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LoveOfCountry
09-12-12, 09:27 AM
Where were our Marines during the attack on our embassy in Libya yesterday? A U.S. ambassador was murdered, the embassy was overrun, and I haven't read a single report mentioning Marines, or any security detail for that matter.

Of all places, we don't have MSG on duty at the embassy IN LIBYA???

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/12/us-ambassador-to-libya-and-3-embassy-staff-members-reportedly-killed-in-libya/

Sgt Webb

DWG
09-12-12, 09:36 AM
Damn good question; word on political forum is 2 dead Marines. Well worth napalming the entire city (cities)!

LoveOfCountry
09-12-12, 09:38 AM
It's Libya for God sake. If all we had was two MSG on duty there, then somebody's @$$ needs to get fired. It's probably one of the 'hottest' embassy locations we have right now. It just doesn't make sense to me.

DWG
09-12-12, 09:41 AM
It's Libya for God sake. If all we had was two MSG on duty there, then somebody's @$$ needs to get fired. It's probably one of the 'hottest' embassy locations we have right now. It just doesn't make sense to me.


Welcome to the obammanation! Besides, the raggis are our friends, aren't they? Who needs any security when we're among our friends? The one who needs to be fired is up for revue in November!

LoveOfCountry
09-12-12, 09:44 AM
No kidding. We're falling apart, and our "tolerance" and desire to appease the world are going to cost many American lives.

I'm hearing from some other Marines that ROE prohibited the security at the embassy from firing.

Another "wait until you're dead to defend yourself" moment in our military.

November can't come soon enough.

DWG
09-12-12, 10:02 AM
Couldn't find anything on any dead Marines; so far it is the ambassador and one foreign service officer; they are withholding the ids of the other two pending notification of next of kin.

thewookie
09-12-12, 10:03 AM
The attack on the ambassador happened at an American Consulate, much different security, if any, then a US Embassy. Pretty sure the security at a Consulate is DOS. I hear they are sending FAST teams (probably already there, and may have been the ones KIA) to reinforce security at the Embassy.

I remember spinning up a team/platoon of FAST Marines back in the day to reinforce the Embassies in Africa, Saudi and then for Yemen after the bombings there...

DWG
09-12-12, 10:08 AM
The attack on the ambassador happened at a American Consulate, much different security, if any, then a US Embassy. Pretty sure the security at a Consulate is DOS. I hear they are sending FAST teams (probably already there) to reinforce security at the Embassy.

I remember spinning up a team/platoon of FAST Marines back in the day to reinforce the Embassies in Africa, Saudi and then for Yemen after the bombings there...

They did attack, and enter, the embassy in Cairo I believe.

thewookie
09-12-12, 10:11 AM
They did attack, and enter, the embassy in Cairo I believe.

I've seen some of that footage, you are correct. They may have been overwhelmed, the Marines at the Embassy, and went to more secure locations. Those Marines can fight for themselves, but when they get in trouble there are usually FAST Co. Marines enroute or there.

MOS4429
09-12-12, 10:15 AM
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LoveOfCountry
09-12-12, 01:25 PM
I'm hearing from other Marines through the grape vine that the other 2 casualties along side the Ambassador were both Marines.

Can anyone confirm this?

Rocky C
09-12-12, 01:51 PM
CNN.

About 50 U.S. Marines from a rapid reaction force headed to Libya after the attack, U.S. officials said Wednesday.

Libyan Deputy Interior Minister Wanis al-Sharif blamed the violence on people loyal to deposed dictator Gadhafi.

Consulate security staff opened fire after they heard gunfire outside the mission, al-Sharif said.

"This led to more anger, and this is when the consulate was stormed," he said. "Criminals managed to get in and they burned and ransacked the consulate."

The consulate was badly damaged and was being looted Wednesday, said a contractor working at the mission, who asked not to be named for security reasons.

He said he saw the bodies of all four Americans on the street Wednesday morning.

Juicemang
09-12-12, 02:00 PM
No Marines were killed in the attacks, according to a newly published Fox News article.

"A senior military official clarified Wednesday that despite some reports, no Marines were killed in the Tuesday attack. "

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/12/marine-unit-dispatched-to-secure-consulate-in-benghazi-after-deadly-attacks/

Neberheim
09-13-12, 03:41 PM
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http://freebeacon.com/reports-marines-not-permitted-live-ammo/

Rocky C
09-13-12, 05:37 PM
By M. Alex Johnson, NBC News

New in this version: Identity of fourth victim confirmed.

Updated at 5:57 p.m. ET: A former Navy SEAL killed in an attack this week on a U.S. consulate in Libya was described Thursday as a highly trained marksman and security expert who "lived life to the fullest."

NBC stations WHDH of Boston and KNSD of San Diego contributed to this report.


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The man, identified by U.S. officials and family member as Glen Doherty, 42, a native of Winchester, Mass., was working as a security specialist for the U.S. government when militants attacked the U.S. Consulate in the Libyan city of Benghazi on Tuesday night. He and three other Americans were killed in the attack, including the U.S. ambassador to Libya, Christopher Stevens, and Sean Smith, an information management officer.

Defense officials and family members speaking to NBC News late Thursday confirmed that a second former SEAL, identified as Tyrone Woods, 41, also was killed.

Sgt Leprechaun
09-20-12, 12:37 AM
Officially, from HQMC via PAO:

1: No Marines were unarmed or had unloaded weapons in Cairo.

2: No Marines KIA, anywhere as a result of the situations

3: No Marines at consulate in Libya, it doesn't rate them.