View Full Version : If you fail 2 MOS will you get discharged?
singleo
06-08-12, 10:31 AM
First MOS required a lot of classroom studying and was bored with it. Second MOS is same lots of studying and classes all day. He scored high in ASVAP but he can't study and can't keep his interest. Fears he will fail. Again.
Any chance you can get into a more hands on and less books type of MOS. Maybe an 03xx?
In a way it is my fault because I convinced him he could do it and would be better when he got out with some transferable skills. I am not saying that 03xx doesn't have it as well, but I am more of the book type. Thats what I know.
I hope he doesn't get dropped. That would be devastating.
thanks
-concerned dad.
irpat54
06-08-12, 11:24 AM
My Opinion,
what is he going for,, it depends on him he is going to have to buckle down and get after it,, i would imagine, if he want hand on there is always the grunt unite,,or the new Marine Corps Law enforcement units,, he might try to see if he can get in there
singleo
06-08-12, 11:42 AM
He loves the Marine Corps. He said he would do bootcamp 10 times and rather be a grunt than this stuff he has to sit at desk every day working on computers.
irpat54
06-08-12, 11:48 AM
well he may have to tough it out for a while,,, my daughter hates her supply job for that very reason but she has been there long enough to where she is going for a lat move into the new Law enforcement Bat,, if she can and if not there to something else,, he will have to force himself until he can make the move,, at least, i believe, a year in his designated MOS
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The young Marine needs to buckle down and study. In these days with the Marine Corps downsizing...the Corps doesn't need anyone who won't attempt to achieve what their aptitude says they can do.
My guess...if he doesn't straighten up very quickly.... you could have a very disappointed young man coming back home to you.
Just my opinion.
Omegaham
06-08-12, 05:11 PM
I do know a guy who got kicked out of three different MOS schools (Linguist, avionics, airframes) He was a complete dirtbag and got out as a lance.
If a Marine fails twice, they're going to put him into an MOS that he can't fail out of. Probably Food Services. Food Service guys hate their lives.
There is NO WAY that he will be able to move into infantry or any of the combat arms. There are an enormous amount of poolees signing contracts for those jobs, and the Marine Corps is saying, "Why should we stick you into this job when we have three boots who want to do this?"
Bottom line - they won't kick him out, but they will stick him in a job that is just miserable. Tell him to stick with it. As annoyed as he is with being a pogue, (I'm one myself; I fly a desk all day) it could be a lot worse.
FoxtrotOscar
06-09-12, 12:32 PM
Grunts don't like quitters either....!!!
advanced
06-09-12, 07:07 PM
Grunts don't like quitters either....!!!
No Sir, we HATE QUITTERS, for they are lower than whale ****. If he doesn't know how to keep his focus on line with MC infantry, they'll know what to do with him. No room for slackers or non-hackers.
The Marine Corps is not a babysitting service. Either shape up or ship out. Being a grunt is one of the toughest jobs in the Corps. You have not only yourself to keep alive but others. And in the Corps your fellow Marines are more important than YOU. Bored is not an acceptable word in the Corps. If your son can't hack it in the Corps, please do the other Marines a favor, drop out. I never want anyone at my Six who is not 110% committed. Too many have died for this very reason.
singleo
06-09-12, 11:30 PM
Ok, some of you talking tough obviously did not read my original post. I never said he was a grunt. I asked if he could switch to being a grunt. Please go back and re-read before you answer. And be respectable when you answer. I am not in the military. I am just civilian.
Tennessee Top
06-10-12, 01:54 AM
We are not talking tough (believe me, if we wanted to talk tough you would know it). Just giving you our opinions...which you asked for. Apparently, you don't like the answers which is fine. Just...
FoxtrotOscar
06-10-12, 10:43 AM
I think that Top summed this up quite nicely...!!!
Good to Go Top..
Semper Fi...
:thumbup:
Dear Dad,
My apologies for stepping off the starting blocks prematurely. I can't speak for others here, but "bored" has never been part of the Marine Corps lexicon, hence my reaction. As a father, grandfather and combat Marine, I understand how much you want to guide your son onto a successful career path. Your passing comment that it was your fault speaks a paragraph of truths. Dad, your son is paralyzed with fear to fail you. Regardless what he will be doing in the Corps or elsewhere, he's gotta jump off the cliff with his own parachute. Good luck. Again, sorry I poked your eyes. BTW, I took am a bookworm.
Semper fi,
MintusMaximus
06-11-12, 06:52 AM
Ok, some of you talking tough obviously did not read my original post. I never said he was a grunt. I asked if he could switch to being a grunt. Please go back and re-read before you answer. And be respectable when you answer. I am not in the military. I am just civilian.
Some people are a bit direct, am I am usually "Sgt Chill" However.. you're son is kinda sucking at his Job atm. His Job at this time is "Student" and he is performing poorly. Please inform him, that he needs to stop sucking.
Otherwise he's going to hit the Fleet, and expect Sgts like me to babysit him. I treat my PFC / LCpls as men. He should expect the same fomr his Cpls and Sgts.
thewookie
06-11-12, 07:02 AM
My first thought is this is a troll question. But, I'll play along for now.
I think you/snm are mistaken if you think they are going to take a somebody who fails because they are "bored with it" and put them in the grunts.
First of all, that is a lame excuse. Second of all, grunts are not where they stick rocks, or slow learners. If he can't focus enought to sit in classes all day then being a grunt isn't going to be his forte - either. Grunts sit in a lot of classes, important classes where you need to pay attention.
He'll more than likely end up in supply, motor t or being a chef. No offense to those Marines out there. ;)
Good luck.
Ok, some of you talking tough obviously did not read my original post. I never said he was a grunt. I asked if he could switch to being a grunt. Please go back and re-read before you answer. And be respectable when you answer. I am not in the military. I am just civilian.
singleo
Tone down the attitude, you came into a Marine house and asked Marines for answers.
They are giving them, everyone of us has earned the title and demand that respect.
The Marines that you say are talking tough have darn well earned that right.
They are telling you what grunts expect, nothing more,nothing less.
First MOS required a lot of classroom studying (was bored with it.)
Second MOS is THE same lots of studying and classes all day.
He scored high in ASVAP
but he can't study
and can't keep his interest.
Fears he will fail. Again.
Any chance you can get into a more hands on and less books type of MOS. Maybe an 03xx?
In a way it is my fault because I convinced him he could do it and would be better when he got out with some transferable skills. I am not saying that 03xx doesn't have it as well, but I am more of the book type. Thats what I know.
I hope he doesn't get dropped. That would be devastating.
thanks
-concerned dad.
Ok, some of you talking tough
obviously did not read my original post.
I never said he was a grunt. I asked if he could switch to being a grunt. Please go back and re-read before you answer.
And be respectable when you answer.
I am not in the military.
I am just civilian.
Come-on...
Your son was given tests to find what fields he qualified for.
was given test to find fields he had the ability to learn.
your son was sent to school for at least one of the areas he should
have been able to "LEARN" / train into..
tell him.
Knuckle down.
Buckle Down.
and Do it..
Nobody wants a quitter
Grunts, Especially.
Ebecker
07-15-12, 01:54 PM
Opportunities are afforded to those who work for them. While at MOS school we had two marines fail and get dropped from class twice. One had talked to his instructor, gone to study groups, and tried his best. Our Instructor intervened with the CO Gunny on his behalf and they worked it out so he got put into an MOS he wanted. The other marine just gave up and refused to try. His Instructor did nothing for him and the Gunny condemned him 29 Palms purgatory till he could finally graduate. To my knowledge, he is still there in classes after a year and a half of first getting there.
advanced
07-16-12, 06:44 AM
In the Marine Corps Infantry the lowest form of life is a quitter. Lower than Whale ****. Perhaps the most difficult MOS in the MC is that of being a grunt. Long hours of instruction, the final test is often whether you can stay alive during the "practical application" of what you have learned. Grunts are not **** birds, who do you think wins all the battles close up and personal.
The MC has made the decision that your son is not qualified to be a grunt, for one reason or another. Being a Marine is much more than graduating from boot camp, it is the day to day standing up to responsibility and doing one's duty. Remember, the MC did not seek out your son, he sought us out.
You could stand a few lessons of respect yourself, remember the apple does not fall far from the tree. If you do not like the answers you receive here stop asking questions.