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bobpage
11-15-03, 12:50 PM
For those of us who were THERE! Not just in Iraq, but in Nasiriya, and on that road that day/night, we will never forgive this young lady who has so brilliantly blamed Marines for not warning them of impending danger. Let me explain...


I was in the arty battalion in RCT 1 sitting outside Nasiriya when we were briefed that it was secured already by the Army. So we could proceed thru and head for the fight at Al Kut. Task Force Tarawa was headed in to secure the town for our movement, and the rest as they say is history. 3 days of fighting and casualties. But we overcame and got it done. What we later found out is the Army went AROUND the town. They had never seen the light of day there.

The highway where these morons got hit was NOT in town but south of the river near nothing. They had passed the Patriot battery road by 200 or so meters. We came upon the scene of their capture in the early hours the next morning. Such an interesting sight. At first we were angry and vengeful. These were Americans. But the Iraqis took no tools, parts, or personal effects. They only took them. Only one, repeat one pile of brass was spotted. None anywhere else. But who am I? NBC knows better.

The Hummer that someone was riding in had a nice, big, boom box mounted, yes mounted into the deck between the seats in front. The Iraqis didn't even take that. All their stuff was scattered all over the place, but even their panties were there. We secured the site and turned it over to Regiment.

The comment the Private made about they "passed the Marines on the side of the road and no one warned them of impending danger" is a pant-load Chet!!!!!!!!!!!! Warn who? We were waiting on the Grandest Army in the world to finish their snail like movement so the real warriors could get through.

SHE IS NO HERO!!!!!!!!!!! No one should be taken hostage, especially a woman. We were hopping mad and eventually our RCT facilitated the rescue with SOF. But, I say again, she is a liar. A jammed weapon?

We were ambushed above Nasiriya during the sandstorm, and thunderstorm with hail, and we were able to make it happen. No jammed rifles. I think the bottom line is the Army, once again, is proving the point. The lack discipline and leadership. Or should I say, they reflect their leader, Bill Clinton, who tried to disembowell the Marines and others for the granola heads. The Army standards reflect the sass mouth, sloppy people they recruit. And she SHOULD return that Star immediately!!!!!!!!!!

Stay Hard Marines,

Sgtj
11-15-03, 01:46 PM
Thank you SSgt, I wasn't over there. But I couldn't agree with you anymore. Jammed Weapon.? I almost lost it when she set fault on the Marines for "letting them pass by." Yeah of course the Marines new there was going to be an ambush. Sure!!! Its time to get real shouldn't you assume the worst, especailly in combat. How could you not expect it.
It didn't even sound like she was even a POW. Bless her heart for what she did go through but lets get real. My gradfather was awarded the Star in WWII. I am glad he's not here to hear all this. Give back the Stare.

Semper Fidelis
:marine:

Sixguns
11-15-03, 02:49 PM
Yeah, an Army PFC in a maintenance battalion is such a savvy and salty veteran of combat! Let's just chalk it up to the need to sell a few books and the rights to a TV movie. Remember, this soldier has no plans to return to active duty. What's even funnier is the movie explain she joined the Army so that she could get educational benefits and later become a teacher. Does this sound familiar? People joining the Army to get benefits? Yeah, for all of us who were in during Desert Storm, you remember dozens of soldiers trying to get out and whine when their units were activated. "I just joined for the education." Jessica Lynch is no different. The only difference is someone decided to shower her with medals, special treatment and the chance to tell the country how great our Army is. Most of us with vision correct to at least 20/50 could see through all that crap!!!

SF

quakerboy74
11-15-03, 11:23 PM
Thanks again SSgt. I just finished reading your thread on the Jessica Lynch situation. As the poll suggests, she should buck-up and return the star herself. Don't send her a piece of paper saying she doesn't deserve it. I want it on National T.V. She sure didin't have any trouble bad-mouthing America's 911 force on Primetime tuesday night, 11/11/03. When she started talking about the situation, I knew something wasn't right. I personally want to Thank-you and all Marines for a job well done over there, and for continuing the great tradition of defending this, OUR great country. Again, Thanks. Ooh-Rah and Semper Fi!

ALSEUT
11-17-03, 06:19 AM
Come on people you should know by now that the Army has a Hollywood image they must keep. What has truth have to do with anything when you are in the Army. They can't even get the "Team Concept" down. It all me, me,me and thats to bad about you. I love to hear them say "Taking care of the Soldier." That some new code meaning your about to get screwed.
Semper Fi the Army can die.

quakerboy74
11-18-03, 03:37 AM
Corporal ALSEUT: First of all I will address your final statement. "Semper Fi, the Army can die." Let me remind you all service men (and all women) took the same oath as you and I did. " We just interjected "United States Marine Corps" than all the rest.

I respect those who served in all Armed Services. Just because they decided to take the easy way out, was there choice. Some of my friends are former Army soldiers. And I still call them my friends. You and I do NOT say former Marines. We are all Marines. Young and old, we earned that title.

As far as the "Hollywood Image", I remember the quote, "Hollywood Marines", given to those who were trained on the West coast.

No, the Army does not have the definition of "Team Concept.", As was proven by PFC Lynch's comments on "Primetime" on Veteran's Day. Gee, let's blame someone else instead of our Commanding Officer, "who should always be right. "

PFC Lynch knows what she should do. If she chooses not to do that, then she has to live with that fact all the rest of her life. There is gonna be some people that say she should keep it, there are gonna be people that say she doen't deserve it. It is only up to PFC Lynch. Not the rest of The Army, that should "die".
Those statements are an act of terroism if you ask me.

I am DIE-HARD Marine Corps through and through, but I have never slandered any other service in that way.

For those I have p!#&*ed off, I am sorry. For those who side with me, Ooh-Rah Devil Dogs. Semper Fi and God Bless.

Sgtj
11-18-03, 05:41 AM
I have to side with Quakerboy74 on this men, we all need to stick together. That means all services, we all do our part. Maybe some better then others but nonetheless we are all part of the big picture. The comments aboat the Army were a bit rough.. Lets just stay focused on the mission at hand.

Semper Fi.

quakerboy74
11-18-03, 11:10 PM
Thank you Sgtj for agreeing with me. I told one of my Army friends that I work with, what was going on with this whole Jessica Lynch thing and he gave me this answer: "Why did they give her a Bronze star? She didn't do anything to merit being a recipient of that award." I then asked him what he thought she should do, "Give it back. She doesn't deserve it." So there you have it Marines. That's only one answer from the Army side. But it's a start.

Ooh-Rah and Semper Fi!

DWStahl
11-19-03, 04:36 AM
Give the Star back. Many men died defending this country and our Constitution so she could grow up in these United States, and be afforded the opportunity to sit and whine on prime time.
I'd give her credit for one thing though. For whatever the reasons, she signed up to fight for this Country and our beliefs, at least when her number came up to go, she went and didn't come up with some lame Clinton-esque excuse.

Semper Fi !!!!!

bobpage
11-19-03, 01:05 PM
True she didn't come up with a Bill-ism and try to run from service. She did however take full advantage of the chance to become a liberal whiner and ask the question "why did they have to videotape my rescue? It was an invasion of my privacy." I'll tell you why: the Clinton White House and his administration empowered every slacker to question authority, and every lawyer to sue. They were covering their butts and so were the Generals. So they made it public. Good PR by the government. Been a long while since our military had anything show up better than that did. And then she has the nerve to complain.

One more thing here.....I was in the barber shop here in my hometown this morning. They TOTALLY support us. As we look to head back over, they want it finished. While we were talking, I mentioned the movie. A discussion ensued and I explained to them what a joke it all was. The only thing I agree with is they were on their knees praying and surrendering. That, my Brother and Sister Marines, is the difference. Marines would not be surrendering or giving up. We would give them an opportunity to get their so called 70 virgins.