Someone used my sons name and got a ticket

[tommielynn]

My son is active, stationed in California, and hasnt been home in several months. His permanent address is still our home address. Today in the mail, he got a notice to appear in court for a traffic violation received on 3/15 on a local street.

I contacted him to let him know, he investigated and found out one of his friends got pulled over for speeding and told the cop he didn't have his license on him, and proceeded to tell him his name was___________ my sons name. He got a ticket for failure to display state drivers license and speeding. Are you serious!? I flipped ****, called the kid and asked him what the hell ..... I know him very well, he's a general F-up in my opinion. Well he said he will take care of the fine, etc and my son, the Marine doesn't want to get him in trouble, and he doesn't think there will be a problem.

Aside from the fact that this kid is stupid enough to walk into a courthouse masquerading as someone else, is there any danger that my son could suffer reprecussions from this? I guess I'm curious about what would happen if a paid ticket shows up on his record for a date that he was supposed to be on base....? Or if the kid gets caught, could he say that my son was implicit in the matter, I.e. knowing and not taking care of appropriately?

Please don't be too hard on me, I'm just a worried Momma! Thanks for any advice you can give me. My son has only been in the fleet since December last year. If he knew I posted this here, he would be fuming mad at me! He is infantry with planned deployment later this year.

[Phantom Blooper]

If I were you I would contact the Clerk of Court and explain the situation to them.

Being that your son can prove where he was there shouldn't be a problem...

Personally I feel like this is stolen idenity and this young man should be punished.

I would also get a letter from the court clearing your son of any wrong doing.

Try to PM these Marines they are in the legal field and ex law enforcement for maybe some more information.

http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/member.php?30766-Zulu-36

http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/member.php?85610-MOS4429

http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/member.php?43579-USMC1963


Good luck!

[Zulu 36]

I know this isn't much solace, but the police and courts see these kinds of shenanigans all of the time. So they should have some procedure in place.

Often it's a relative doing the dirty deed. I handled one where an evil identical twin (literally) was using the name of her law abiding twin. Luckily the evil twin was arrested and we had her prints on file so clearing the good twin was fairly simple (except, as twins, their prints were so close we had to have three or four print techs do the comparisons to make certain). Getting the ticket amended into the evil twin's name was the easy part (it was a drunk driving, refusal to take a breath test). Getting the good twin's suspended driver's license unsuspended was the tough part, but we got it done.

[SGT7477]

If I were you I would contact the Clerk of Court and explain the situation to them.

Being that your son can prove where he was there shouldn't be a problem...

Personally I feel like this is stolen idenity and this young man should be punished.

I would also get a letter from the court clearing your son of any wrong doing.

Try to PM these Marines they are in the legal field and ex law enforcement for maybe some more information.

http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/member.php?30766-Zulu-36

http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/member.php?85610-MOS4429

http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/member.php?43579-USMC1963


Good luck!

Not much happens when your identity is stolen,Semper Fidelis.

[Marinemom32]

Wow some friend. Good luck with all of this, and you defnitely want to get this taken out of your son's name. Don't leave this up the "friend" to take care of the fine, what if he doesn't? Then...

[SGT7477]

I've had my identity stolen, not much happens, poor system,Semper Fidelis.

[MOS4429]

My son is active, stationed in California, and hasnt been home in several months.

He got a ticket for failure to display state drivers license and speeding.

My son, the Marine doesn't want to get him in trouble, and he doesn't think there will be a problem.

Aside from the fact that this kid is stupid enough to walk into a courthouse masquerading as someone else, is there any danger that my son could suffer reprecussions from this?

USMC1963 gave you the best legal advice, and he is the one most qualified to do so.

The only thing I wanted to add in addition is the aspect of your son not wanting to get this "friend" in trouble.

Your son needs to view this from a different perspective. This "friend" had no problem at all giving out your son's name, he could care less about getting HIM in trouble, your son's Marine career doesn't matter to this person.

What is more, because the ticket was issued in your son's name, the "friend" would not receive notice of the court appearance, not show up and your son would have a warrant out for his arrest.

And if you pay fine, the tickets go on your son's record, he gets the points, his insurance goes up, etc.

So as USMC1963 said, the only way to resolve this is for you to go with this kid into court, for him to be a REAL friend and fess up to his deed, get your son's name off the tickets, and for this kid to take responsibility for his actions.

Then...I think your son would do well to let this "friendship" go by the wayside.

[Apache]

Wow !
Identity theft ?
Fraud ?

The list goes on ,and somewhere in there I heard "friend"

You already got solid advice from the proper people

Ensure you follow through

[hbharrison]

Not certain what State you are in but where I come from your son's frend has done your son a very big wrong that can cuase problems for him down the road. Do not allow it to go any further go to the Police and the Court, or even better to the City Attorney or County Attorney. Like the otherss have said DO NOT let this go.

[m14ed]

Not certain what State you are in but where I come from your son's frend has done your son a very big wrong that can cuase problems for him down the road. Do not allow it to go any further go to the Police and the Court, or even better to the City Attorney or County Attorney. Like the otherss have said DO NOT let this go.

lots of folks in here are/were/ law enforcement officers. NOT to slight our Site Attorney USMC 1963..

IF i had to make a trip to get the best action i could out of this ....Aside from contacting the "Cleark of Courts" . I'd make sure i also found the Prossicuter's office
and give them a heads up....

Not all areas that may not be possible...but worth the extra effort

[Sgt Leprechaun]

All good advice. Make sure the so called 'friend' does in fact do what he needs to do. I'd personally contact the court and find out the exact court date, so YOU can be there yourself.

Honestly, I'd take this OUT of your son's hands, unless he wants to come back and beat the crap out of the no longer 'friend'. That would be MY response.

[usmc5831]

I would contact the police department that issued the ticket immediately. You need to handle it before it gets to court. If you explain it exactly like you just did, they should be able to void the original ticket, reissue the ticket to the correct person, and probably pinch the kid for criminal impersonation. Maybe if the kid goes to the police station himself and mans up, the cop would just reissue the ticket. My guess is he gave the wrong name for a reason, suspended license or maybe an outstanding warrant. Do not trust this to kid to show up in court, besides now that you and your son know he did this, it’s just wrong to condone it. This will not end well if you let a kid like this handle it!

[Marinemom32]

I think a court date is always issued when you receive a ticket, but if it is resolved before the court date, you don't have to go to court. At least when I got a speeding ticket, that's what the officer told me. Maybe they can just "amend" the ticket take out of the son's name, and but it in the "friends" name? Maybe mom and "friend" can contact the officer that wrote the ticket? I don't know....I just hope they get it taken care of soon

[usmc5831]

In Connecticut we issued the court dates when we wrote the infraction or misdemeanor summons. Tickets get written and then we backup the tickets with a narrative. Then they get processed and transmitted to the appropriate court. Regardless how it works in your state I think you should contact the police department and make a complaint. The police officer should want to make it right. He wrote the ticket in error, and should be more than happy to make it right. Most cops don’t like being lied to. You’ve done most the work for him.

[Marinemom32]

That's what I meant, at the time you get the ticket you know when your court date is, that is how it is in KY, and in Jacksonville NC...which is where I got my ticket visiting my son at ITB...and I wasn't going back for court..so just paid the ticket :(

[TunTvrnWarrior]

From an insurance standpoint, I can tell you your son will pay out the wazoo because of his age and the points that will be added. Let him know, that the insurance company will run a C.L.U.E. report (Check with all the other insurance companies for prior accidents at fault/not at fault), as well as traffic violations thru state records and a credit agency (yes, the credit agencies can have access to traffic violations). This is done periodically prior to renewal. Although the points will only increase his insurnace for 3 years, the insurance company will "rate"
the policy based upon the violation for 5 years, and can up to 7 to 12 years for a DUI. This "friend" needs to be prosecuted for being a first class slob and punk.

[kaelobo]

sounds like the guy who used his name needs a blanket party, one way or another, (just my thought)

[hbharrison]

Got to thinkin just maybe this guy has something to hide, like he is wanted for something else or has NO DL of his own. It may be suspened and he used your sons name becuase of that. Just thinkin?

[hbharrison]

Remember having some t*rd say he or she did not have the old DL with them and giving a name/DOB and becuase it was a traffic violation I would issue a tickit and let them go, only to find out later they were not who they said they were and had a outstanding warrant or a suspended DL.:mad:

[Phantom Blooper]

The reason for my longgggg posts is that these seemingly small things have repercussions that can mushroom and last for years, if not taken care of in the right way.


Dave... you have never had a short post on any subject here on leatherneck.......

The judge.....jury.....prosecution....reporter....and clerk probally need to drink a bottle of 5 hour energy..... before you give your statements....rebuttals and legal dissertations.......ROTFLOL!:beer:

[kaelobo]

I cant understand why another Marine would do that,what happen to all for one ,one for all, dont turn your back on that clown, pay back is a medavac,

[m14ed]

I cant understand why another Marine would do that,what happen to all for one ,one for all, dont turn your back on that clown, pay back is a medavac,


This story AINT about TWO Marines,,,,,,,
This Story is about a CIVILIAN that used a "Marines " INFORMATION
to a police officer who wrote the citation with out a License of the person he was Citing .......


Cop stops Civilian
civilian has no license in possesion
Cop was being NICE,, DIDNT lock civilians ass up for Lack of license
"CIVILIAN FRIEND"
gave the cop, his Marines Friends INFO......

I second the Blanket Party,,, or drag him out to the tree line and dance

[Marinemom32]

I cant understand why another Marine would do that,what happen to all for one ,one for all, dont turn your back on that clown, pay back is a medavac,

I don't think it was another Marine, it was one of the Marine's friends that was back home.

[tommielynn]

Thankfully, my sons CO became aware of this, I'm not sure how, and it is being taken care of by the Marine Corps and the Navy Relief Society. I was worried that my son may suffer reprecussions later in life, but he didn't want to get his "friend" in trouble. Since then, my son has received several credit rejection letters, so I guess his "friend" figured it was so easy to be him, he might try it again. Thank goodness my son has no credit history and didn't qualify for a line of credit.

Needless to say, I'm relieved that his chain of command became involved. And I don't have to worry about my son being upset with me!

Again, thank you all for the great advice. This place is a gold mine!

[tommielynn]

No it wasn't another Marine, it was a friend from back home.

[MOS4429]

Thankfully, my sons CO became aware of this, I'm not sure how, and it is being taken care of by the Marine Corps and the Navy Relief Society. I was worried that my son may suffer reprecussions later in life, but he didn't want to get his "friend" in trouble. Since then, my son has received several credit rejection letters, so I guess his "friend" figured it was so easy to be him, he might try it again. Thank goodness my son has no credit history and didn't qualify for a line of credit.

Needless to say, I'm relieved that his chain of command became involved. And I don't have to worry about my son being upset with me!

Again, thank you all for the great advice. This place is a gold mine!

Thanks for updating us on this. Appreciate it. Marines take care of their own, so take some comfort in that.

But what you shared about receiving credit rejection letters steps this up a notch, ma'am.

This is no longer a punk kid who impersonated your son and caused your son to be issued a ticket, but this is not about identity theft, plain and simple, and that escalates this situation.

If he has stolen your son's identity, or at least attempted to, is applying for credit cards or other forms of credit in your son's name, and your son is being turned down, those credit rejections can work against your son. But worse, if the punk kid doing this actually got a credit card issued...then you better believe he is out there using it, running up debt in your son's name.

At this point, I would either call law enforcement and discuss the situation or go to the district attorney's office. Forget about not wanting to get the kid in trouble, he's already done that, and it is he who has gotten himself in trouble.

[Marinemom32]

Wow with friends like that who needs enemies! I agree with what MOS says...who knows who or what else he has lied to about his identity, acting like your son. And I really glad that his command got involved. I know it is probabaly hard on your son to realize that one of his friends could do this to him. I had something similiar with one of my friends sons, but nothing to this extent. They have been friends since 3rd grade, and I looked at him as my second son, he was having trouble at home, stayed with me for few weeks, ( this is while he was a boot camp) and I discovered, that he pawned his x-box, and took alll his graduation money. My son the forgiving sole that he is forgave him of course, me on the other hand not so much. He did a few other things as well, but won't go into it. I just hope everything gets resolved for your son. I wonder how his command found out?

[Phantom Blooper]

Probally missed court date?????

Sounds like the Marine needs to go home on leave and lay some of that new combat kung fu on this young "friends" azz.

Friends like that one does not need......

May consider civil suit...teach the " friend" a lesson.

My opine.

[tommielynn]

Thank you MOS -- You're absolutely right about the credit issue. Thankfully, his command automatically referred him to the Navy Releif Society "just in case" the person tried to use his credit also. They were already investigating the credit fraud before the first rejection letter came in the mail. Seems they may have some experience with this kind of thing!

MarineMom, my son has a extremely kind, giving, and forgiving heart. I'm more like you, I want to wring the kids neck! If I ever see him again, it will be too soon.

Thanks again to all of you, everyone here is just awesome!

p.s. I get to see my Marine next month, I'm going to 29 Palms! So excited!

[tommielynn]

I like that idea Phantom. I'd buy a ticket to watch!

[Marinemom32]

Thank you MOS -- You're absolutely right about the credit issue. Thankfully, his command automatically referred him to the Navy Releif Society "just in case" the person tried to use his credit also. They were already investigating the credit fraud before the first rejection letter came in the mail. Seems they may have some experience with this kind of thing!

MarineMom, my son has a extremely kind, giving, and forgiving heart. I'm more like you, I want to wring the kids neck! If I ever see him again, it will be too soon.

Thanks again to all of you, everyone here is just awesome!

p.s. I get to see my Marine next month, I'm going to 29 Palms! So excited!

So excited for you that you get to visist your son!! And I am not one to hold a grudge, and my son doesn't understand why it bothers me so much when it was his stuff, that he took. But I look at as he took these things out of my house, I just feel like his stealing. But in his mind, he a reason for doing it. If would have came to me and asked me for money, I would have probably given it to him....Oh well. I am trying to forgive him, just take time. Have a great vist!!

[tommielynn]

Got to thinkin just maybe this guy has something to hide, like he is wanted for something else or has NO DL of his own. It may be suspened and he used your sons name becuase of that. Just thinkin?


Yes, that's exactly why he did it.

Looks like I spoke a little too soon when I said I was off the hook on this one -- my son called me yesterday and said he was gonna have to commission some leave to attend the hearing this Thursday. What?!! "I can't have a warrant out for my arrest Mom!!". To which I said "I thought your command was taking care of this!?!" Seems the paperwork hasn't made it through the Chain of Command and back to the Court in Houston (half or more of Unit is at MWTC Bridgeport, not sure if thats why or if its just a slow process). He tried explaining to his dumb civilian momma that the Corps don't care about this excuse and that excuse, if a warrant is issued, they'll take him to the Brig and sort it out later. LOL. Lordy lordy that was a stressful conversation.

So I contacted the court, and they gave me a packet of paperwork for him to complete. He's gotta get it notarized and return it with signature samples. I suppose I'm going to take all his paperwork and my POA to the courthouse on Thursday night. Or maybe before then as the notice says "on or before 4/12 at 9pm", seems to say you can go before the actual court date.

Will keep you posted.

[Marinemom32]

Wow!! I am so sorry. While he is home make sure he beats the holy sh** out of this "friend" that did this to him.

[tommielynn]

Wow!! I am so sorry. While he is home make sure he beats the holy sh** out of this "friend" that did this to him.


I'm hoping he doesn't have to come home! That's why I'm gonna take all his stuff to the court with my POA, not sure if that will work, but I'm gonna try.

My son doesn't have extra money to spend coming home to take care of some BS that he had nothing to do with. So if he ends up having for come home, that kid might find out what happens when you #*&% with a Marine!

[Marinemom32]

Oh yeah I didn't think about that, sorry. Well hopefully since you do have his POA, the court will help you. What happend to the friend coming with you to court, or even when you take all the paperwork to the courthouse before the court date? Is he now unwilling to say exactly what happened?