Hooray for Florida! Drug test or no Welfare

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Great going, Florida. You set the stage for the other 49 States to join! Kudos to Republican Governor Rick Scott for having the correctness and guts to move forward on this critical issue !

Hooray for Florida!

I-95 will be jammed for the next month or so........Druggies and deadbeats heading North out of Florida..
Florida is the first state - Hooray for Florida!!!!
Florida is the first state requiring drug testing to receive welfare! In signing the new law,

Republican Gov. Rick Scott said, "If Floridians want welfare, they better make sure they are drug-free.

Applicants who test positive for illicit substances won't be eligible for the funds for a year, or until they undergo treatment.

Those who fail a second time would be banned from receiving funds for three years!

Naturally, a few people are crying this is unconstitutional.

How is this unconstitutional ?

It's completely legal that every other working people have to pass drug tests in order to get a J-O-B which supports those on welfare!
Forward if you agree!!

Let's get Welfare back to the ones who NEED it, not those who WON'T get a JOB.....

I AGREE 100%

[FistFu68]

:thumbup: Yeah now these Political Bum's here need too Take Heed...But since they are All CROOK's here Russ Your ScumBag's will just Move Here and join The RAT's that are Residing Here already...Good For Florida!!! :beer: :iwo:

[Sgt Jim]

The VA makes me take a drug test every six months because of the meds they give me,Doc told me he didn,t want me mixing anything else with my meds,don,t even drink anymore and sure would like a beer everynow and then.

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The VA makes me take a drug test every six months because of the meds they give me,Doc told me he didn,t want me mixing anything else with my meds,don,t even drink anymore and sure would like a beer everynow and then.

They can only drug test for beer within 24 hours, I offer you the freedom that you desire. S/F

[Sgt Jim]

Not looking to get welfare either!

[Sgt Jim]

:beer:Thanks

[FistFu68]

:beer: Yo Sarge You should have My Doc...He gave Me a Lifetime Script for Beer and said Jack I heard Your the Only 60 something Marine that don't need VIAGRA in The Entire Veterans Administration Health Care System...:D :banana:

[Omegaham]

Already posted this, but it's relevant:

Florida’s new drug-tests-for-welfare-applicants program just yielded its first batch of results: 98 percent passed.
Florida Gov. Rick Scott, who rode his own fortune and the tea party’s adoration to office last year, has stated publicly several times that people on welfare use drugs at a higher rate than the general population. So at Scott’s urging earlier this year, the legislature implemented a policy requiring all temporary cash assistance applicants pass a drug test before getting any help.
The Department of Children and Families says about 2 percent of applicants are failing the test; another 2 percent are not completing the application process, for reasons unspecified, according to the Tampa Tribune. (http://www2.tbo.com/news/politics/2011/aug/24/welfare-drug-testing-yields-2-percent-positive-res-ar-252458/)
The Tampa Tribune (http://www2.tbo.com/news/politics/2011/aug/24/welfare-drug-testing-yields-2-percent-positive-res-ar-252458/) did some simple math and found out how much the governor’s assumptions about poor people going to cost the state:

Cost of the tests averages about $30. Assuming that 1,000 to 1,500 applicants take the test every month, the state will owe about $28,800-$43,200 monthly in reimbursements to those who test drug-free.
That compares with roughly $32,200-$48,200 the state may save on one month’s worth of rejected applicants.
Net savings to the state: $3,400 to $5,000 annually on one month’s worth of rejected applicants. Over 12 months, the money saved on all rejected applicants would add up to $40,800 to $60,000 for a program that state analysts have predicted will cost $178 million this fiscal year.

[Zulu 36]

Already posted this, but it's relevant:

Florida’s new drug-tests-for-welfare-applicants program just yielded its first batch of results: 98 percent passed.
Florida Gov. Rick Scott, who rode his own fortune and the tea party’s adoration to office last year, has stated publicly several times that people on welfare use drugs at a higher rate than the general population. So at Scott’s urging earlier this year, the legislature implemented a policy requiring all temporary cash assistance applicants pass a drug test before getting any help.
The Department of Children and Families says about 2 percent of applicants are failing the test; another 2 percent are not completing the application process, for reasons unspecified, according to the Tampa Tribune. (http://www2.tbo.com/news/politics/2011/aug/24/welfare-drug-testing-yields-2-percent-positive-res-ar-252458/)
The Tampa Tribune (http://www2.tbo.com/news/politics/2011/aug/24/welfare-drug-testing-yields-2-percent-positive-res-ar-252458/) did some simple math and found out how much the governor’s assumptions about poor people going to cost the state:

One must understand that not ALL people who would have otherwise applied, did so. They knew they were going to pop hot and didn't bother. How many? Who knows. I don't have access to the data and I don't really want to bother crunching stats.

I like the plan and I am a Florida taxpayer. Any money saved is good. Any dope head denied welfare is also good.

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Agreed Chris, it gives me a nice warm fuzzy feeling to know that dope-head deadbeats are going to take our money. Only regular deadbeats.

[CplLakota]

I think thats a great idea and hope more states follow thru. ive heard from others that some states have "bills" but no laws in the works, so I certainly applaud that Govern. Especially for those that are career welfare folks. That program was never meant as a long term solution for help , only temp. Hell , I used it after I first got out for a few months.

[Mongoose]

I'm proud of Florida.I always say hooraa when a state tries to do the right thing.

[EGA1957]

Can't make an expectation any clearer: "run hot, get not."

[Rocky C]

Can't make an expectation any clearer: "run hot, get not."

That was Good :thumbup:.

[YLDNDN6]

This is a great initiative, however, drug users know how to play the system. If I'm a drug user and I know my free ride is about to end unless I can pass a drug test, I'll clean up long enough to pass the test. I don't know what testing method they are going to use, but, unless it is hair or cellular testing, there's little or no chance they will catch a great number of the freeloading hopheads. I, as well as a great many of you, have to pass drug tests to keep my job. I hope they can fine tune this thing in order to ensure a greater catch when they cast this net. Great start, though!

[m14ed]

NOW, maybe somebody/States can get them (un-wed MOTHERS) to start identifying fathers of their ba$tard children before they gain any funds from the welfare system..and monitary action taken by the states against the "fathers".
Lets stop paying for "breeders"

[Zulu 36]

This is a great initiative, however, drug users know how to play the system. If I'm a drug user and I know my free ride is about to end unless I can pass a drug test, I'll clean up long enough to pass the test. I don't know what testing method they are going to use, but, unless it is hair or cellular testing, there's little or no chance they will catch a great number of the freeloading hopheads. I, as well as a great many of you, have to pass drug tests to keep my job. I hope they can fine tune this thing in order to ensure a greater catch when they cast this net. Great start, though!


If the drug users are just chipping, they might be able to do this. But if they're serious abusers, there is almost no way they can avoid doing their dope long enough to pass clean. If they could clean up long enough to pass a drug test, they could quit totally. Serious users can't do that. Cocaine, meth, and heroin (and synthetic opioids) have a very powerful grip, as do barbiturates and other amphetamines.

However, even should a serious abuser manage to quit long enough, depending on the drug of choice, by the time of the test their withdrawal signs and symptoms should be quite entertaining.

However, if the test is by hair sample, almost every drug tested for abuse can be detected up to 90-days after last use (alcohol is an exception). A very challenging time period for serious abusers, or even chippers.

By the way, if your workplace has a no smoking/no job rule, there are tests to determine that as well (urine, blood, and hair).

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: IF YOUR WIRED YOUR FIRED :evilgrin: :iwo:

[chulaivet1966]

Cool...it's about time.

IMO...
the welfare system is long been broken and merely enables the mentality to milk it.
If any of our tax dollars are being given away (regardless of program) these should be basic protocols nationwide.
I don't give a sh!t how it may be differently characterized by the bleeding hearts.

If the drug testing is too cost prohibitive then ditch the program, make them *fish* for themselves, be a leech on friends and relatives or make it OPTIONAL (I know..I've been smoking good stuff) for EACH and every person to participate in funding it.
Me...I'd dump the whole thing and make people accountable rather than allow them to think '...oh well fvck it, the feds and the state will have a program to provide me a freeloader living'
I acknowledge many may not care for my simplified view.

That's my take on it....carry on....

[YLDNDN6]

If the drug users are just chipping, they might be able to do this. But if they're serious abusers, there is almost no way they can avoid doing their dope long enough to pass clean. If they could clean up long enough to pass a drug test, they could quit totally. Serious users can't do that. Cocaine, meth, and heroin (and synthetic opioids) have a very powerful grip, as do barbiturates and other amphetamines.

However, even should a serious abuser manage to quit long enough, depending on the drug of choice, by the time of the test their withdrawal signs and symptoms should be quite entertaining.

However, if the test is by hair sample, almost every drug tested for abuse can be detected up to 90-days after last use (alcohol is an exception). A very challenging time period for serious abusers, or even chippers.

By the way, if your workplace has a no smoking/no job rule, there are tests to determine that as well (urine, blood, and hair).
Point taken about the serious drug abusers, but that faction should be easily removed with these tests. At least, one would hope. It's the casual users who view welfare as a permanent lifestyle that need to be winnowed out too. I live in Michigan, and I know people who receive welfare and use drugs, and think it's all a big joke. Big parties around the first of the month, then scrounge and sell everything they own for the rest of the month to get dope. Wasted oxygen as far as I am concerned.

m14ed...I agree wholeheartedly. If any of the burden can be lifted from the states, it should be priority one. That's another good way to save big bucks.