View Full Version : Scumbag pretends to be a Marine veteran
Veteran1991
06-30-11, 03:02 AM
There is an anti-war scumbag claiming to be a Marine veteran on a Youtube comments page. His Youtube name is "audallas841".
He is using the Corps to promote the anti-war cult Code Pink.
Here is the link...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jUU3yCy3uI&lc=gG5BrS71l-MyBvLxifLf1UYBosQCVO_OC6oRuccz7I4&feature=inbox
Sgt Leprechaun
06-30-11, 03:10 AM
You'll need a completed profile to post.... It would be helpful, since many of us cannot access utube, if you gave more information on this individual as well
Veteran1991
06-30-11, 03:20 AM
I am an Army veteran arguing with a guy who claims to be a Marine veteran. I don't believe him. He didn't know how to spell Parris Island. He spelled it as Paris Island with just one R.
No real Marine would misspell Parris, would they?
Sgt Leprechaun
06-30-11, 03:22 AM
Probably not. However, and again, you need a profile to post here. Otherwise, the thread gets deleted, no matter how well intentioned or good it might be. It prevents spammers, trolls and other assorted lice from clogging up the forums.
Veteran1991
06-30-11, 03:26 AM
Profile completed.
Sgt Leprechaun
06-30-11, 03:29 AM
Thanks.
What is the idiot's name, if you have it? I'm one of the ones who can't hit u/t from work and my home computer is slower than pond water.
And, it might surprise you that there are a couple of no kidding vets who've been taken in by the idiocy of the codepinkos and sometimes shill for them.
Veteran1991
06-30-11, 03:32 AM
his youtube name is "audallas841". He does not provide his real name.
Sgt Leprechaun
06-30-11, 03:43 AM
Hmmm.....
Possibly a poser....but difficult to make that call without seeing it. Eventually some of our early risers will drop by and weigh in.
Veteran1991
06-30-11, 03:45 AM
He also said that field artillery is useless. Here is his quote...
"Why would you call in artillery when you can get an attack helo on site who can actively engage targets with no delay? Or call in a precise airstrike that will hit one building and one building only. Arty is irrelevant in the modern battlefield."
That's bullcrap. Artillery is faster than waiting for a helicopter or a fast mover, and six 155mm howitzers can do a lot more damage to enemy personnel than hellfire missiles.
Perhaps one of you Marines can ask him a Marine question that cannot be answered by Googling it.
Yeah, not everyone gets airflow all the time. Without getting into response times, I will simply say I've had arty save my ass as recent as a month ago....thanks Echo battery!
Sgt Leprechaun
06-30-11, 04:29 AM
He's a twiddledivck for sure. Expounding on stuff he knows 'zero' about and pretending to be an 'expert', while the anti-war left falls all over him because they don't know the right questions to ask, either (to see if he's real).
It's obvious from that remark that he has about as much knowledge on 'artillery' as he does on fornication. He's read about it in books, finds it distasteful, and wants to deprive those who've used it of it's fine function because it's 'icky' and causes bodily fluids to be splashed about when done correctly.
"Precise" airstrikes are, like everything else, subject to whims and weather. Obviously he's never had to 'lase' a target for real, unless you count his X-box games he plays with cheeto stained fingers.
teamshadowzero
06-30-11, 07:16 AM
Mmm... Cheetos. Haha. I myself don't know a lot about arty fire since I've not yet seen any kind of deployment. I do, however know that the navy in ww2, along with a good trig nut, could shoot individual fleas with deck guns from over the blue horizons. Pretty accurate if you ask me. And now that we add in technology to the mix. Yeah, I think we're set to do some pinpoint damages.
elliscraig12
06-30-11, 10:20 AM
There is an anti-war scumbag claiming to be a Marine veteran on a Youtube comments page. His Youtube name is "audallas841".
He is using the Corps to promote the anti-war cult Code Pink.
Here is the link...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jUU3yCy3uI&lc=gG5BrS71l-MyBvLxifLf1UYBosQCVO_OC6oRuccz7I4&feature=inbox
The link you provided doesn't go to where you said it would. It goes to a video about a guy named Adam Kokesh being body slamed and choked at the Jefferson Memorial. Did you maybe get the wrong link, or is this what you intended to post?
elliscraig12
06-30-11, 11:09 AM
The link you provided doesn't go to where you said it would. It goes to a video about a guy named Adam Kokesh being body slamed and choked at the Jefferson Memorial. Did you maybe get the wrong link, or is this what you intended to post?O.K. got it. I'm not gonna say this guy is or isn't a Marine, but it seems like the biggest part of your argument was about the constitution, with some of the comments being deleted. Did you come here for support because he ****ed you off, or is there a rational point to be made? Marines are just like anyone else, we all have our own opinion, but that has nothing to do with being a Marine. As for the arty goes, I can see this guys point. What faster, calling in an airstike, or dragging around heavy artillery? I would think the airstrike.
Veteran1991
06-30-11, 11:21 AM
O.K. got it. I'm not gonna say this guy is or isn't a Marine, but it seems like the biggest part of your argument was about the constitution, with some of the comments being deleted. Did you come here for support because he ****ed you off, or is there a rational point to be made? Marines are just like anyone else, we all have our own opinion, but that has nothing to do with being a Marine. As for the arty goes, I can see this guys point. What faster, calling in an airstike, or dragging around heavy artillery? I would think the airstrike.
He's not a Marine. He's an imposter.
You don't have to "drag around" artillery to call for fire. If you are within 20 miles of a 155mm battery, the first round will hit near the target within a couple minutes of calling for fire. How do you not know this?
ARTYPIG
06-30-11, 11:56 AM
At Elliscraig: People fail to realize that when an aircraft goes up that it's mission is limited to the ordnance onboard, which may not be the correct type for the type of mission at hand. They are also hindered by some weather conditions even with all the high speed technology.
Artillery has every king of ordnance you could imagine on the deck and are 99% of the time with in range of grunts trying to kill the enemy. You may not always need a 500lb bomb. When an artillery batter gets a fire mission it is less than a minute before rounds are down range and usually a hell of a lot faster. One minute compared to maybe 5 minutes or an hour for an aircraft to get there is a hell of a lot better when the enemy is trying to stomp a mud hole in your ass and walk it dry.
Artillery is called the King Of Battle for a reason and it is more precise than one thinks.
Semper Fi!
Artypig
Marine1955
06-30-11, 11:58 AM
Here's the video for you too watch without going to you tube.
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Veteran1991
06-30-11, 12:15 PM
The video itself does not contain the imposter. The imposter is in the comments section of the video.
elliscraig12
06-30-11, 04:18 PM
[quote=ARTYPIG;786642]At Elliscraig: People fail to realize that when an aircraft goes up that it's mission is limited to the ordnance onboard, which may not be the correct type for the type of mission at hand. They are also hindered by some weather conditions even with all the high speed technology.
Artillery has every king of ordnance you could imagine on the deck and are 99% of the time with in range of grunts trying to kill the enemy. You may not always need a 500lb bomb. When an artillery batter gets a fire mission it is less than a minute before rounds are down range and usually a hell of a lot faster. One minute compared to maybe 5 minutes or an hour for an aircraft to get there is a hell of a lot better when the enemy is trying to stomp a mud hole in your ass and walk it dry.
Artillery is called the King Of Battle for a reason and it is more precise than one thinks.
Semper Fi!
Artypig[/quote Did not know that, I stand corrected, thanks for the info.
i was in a 105 battary in vietnam an even today i have marine grunts thank me for us saveing their 6 sometimes all night by fireing for themlaying down steel all around them
Sgt Leprechaun
06-30-11, 05:29 PM
Ok, now that someone has cleared that one up...
Kokesh is, in fact, a former Marine. He's a code pinkster dirtball, but NOT a poser.
As far as the airstrike vs arty...it really depends on what you have 'on call' and what you don't. If you've got your CAS waiting on your call, then it's likely quicker. If the battery (s) are within range (or your company mortars are, *even better*) then the tubes are faster.
This becomes an 'apples/oranges' point. Planes can't stay on 'hover' forever, they run out of fuel, for one thing. Arty can stay 'prepped' with pre-arranged coordinates.
chulaivet1966
06-30-11, 06:13 PM
If the battery (s) are within range (or your company mortars are, *even better*) then the tubes are faster.
Why does this make good sense to me?...hmmmm.
In all my subjectivity, I like the way you phrased that.:)
Carry on...
Sgt Leprechaun
06-30-11, 06:16 PM
Thank you, sir!
Veteran1991
06-30-11, 06:19 PM
Kokesh is, in fact, a former Marine. He's a code pinkster dirtball, but NOT a poser.
Kokesh is not the person pretending to a Marine veteran in the chat. The person in the chat is a poser. The person in the chat is "claiming" to have lost his leg by an IED.
Sgt Leprechaun
06-30-11, 06:21 PM
Oh. Again...I can't see it.
We use traditional arty, XCAL, HIMARs, and whatever's on station for airflow. Plus birds RTB can deviate and provide support if time, fuel, munitions allow. I don't know if there is towed arty these days, everything that supports the unit I was attached to was stationary...plus we had a lot of airflow. MAW can sometimes be skiddish, and after a month or so of dropping GBUs left and right on one or two guys, Division gets a little concerned with the cost-benefit ratio and tells you to use arty if you can't get good battle damage assessments on your CAS drops.
R Landry
07-01-11, 01:22 PM
Sourced
Our artillery... The Germans feared it almost more than anything we had.
Ernie Pyle (http://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Ernie_Pyle&action=edit&redlink=1), Brave Men (1944)
Ultima Ratio Regum
Translation: the final argument of kings.
Motto engraved on French cannons at the direction of Louis XIV. Later, "ultima ratio regis" was similarly used by Frederick the Great.
"Artillery adds dignity to what would otherwise be a vulgar brawl."
Frederick II of Prussia (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Frederick_II_of_Prussia)
Soldiers, brave guys, and who are your wives?
Our wives are our loaded cannons, that's what our wives.
Traditional Russian soldiers song<sup id="cite_ref-0" class="reference">[1] (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Artillery#cite_note-0)</sup>
If you have two hundred guns per kilometer of the front, do not ask about the enemy.
Marshal Kirill Moskalenko (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirill_Moskalenko)<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference">[2] (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Artillery#cite_note-1)</sup>
Unsourced
God fights on the side with the best artillery.
Napoleon Bonaparte (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Napoleon_I_of_France).
I do not have to tell you who won the war. You know, the artillery did.
Gen George S. Patton (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_S._Patton)
The artillery conquers, the infantry occupies.
French doctrine after the First World War
Artillery is the god of war.
Joseph Stalin (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin)
Contrary to popular belief, we at artillery command do not believe we're God. We merely borrowed His "Smite" button.
Anonymous (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Anonymous)
The Mission of the Artillery is to give some class to what would otherwise be merely a vulgar brawl.
Some Redleg (American Artilleryman, since their dress blue uniforms have red stripes). This quotation has also been attributed to Frederick the Great (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Frederick_the_Great).
Without support the infantry won't move.
The motto of the Israeli Artillery Corps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Artillery_Corps).
In Hebrew (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_language), it rhymes
Infantry err, infantry die. Artillery err, infantry die.
IDF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces) black humor slogan
The bombs land with awesome explosions, the earth trembles, the upcast of craters jets in the air, the troops are shocked by the blast waves, many bleed from noses or perforated ear drums, they are terrorized into apathy or outright panic. But unless the enemy is nearby and ready to advance immediately, the moment passes.
Edward Luttwak (http://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Luttwak&action=edit&redlink=1)
Since infantry is considered the 'Queen of Battle', and artillery the king, I had inscribed my personal banner "Balls for the Queen". Granted, high explosive 150 millimeter shells aren't exactly cannonballs, but hey, why spoil a perfectly good motto?
Tommy Franks (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Tommy_Franks), while an artillery lieutenant in Vietnam.
An artillery barrage is a terrifying thing.
Erich Maria Remarque (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Erich_Maria_Remarque)
If two sides start out at equal strength, and are relatively equally damaged, but one side can replenish his artillery, and the other side cannot, then that one side that gets his artillery back has all but won.
Anonymous
The guns! Thank God the guns!
Rudyard Kipling (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rudyard_Kipling)
Ubique! Quo Fas et Gloria Du****
Translation: Everywhere. Whither Right and Glory Lead
Motto of the Royal Artillery
The weaker the infantry, the more artillery it needs. American infantry needs all the artillery it can get.
A French officer, to General George Patton (during the American liberation of France)
The artillery drops short to keep the infantry moving forwards.
Artillery comeback to the nickname dropshort.
The infantry exists to get the forward observers to the next hill.
Anonymous
Artillery knows neither friend nor foe - only good targets.
Anonymous (slogan in the German Bundeswehr)
Bornagain
07-04-11, 12:58 AM
He's a twiddledivck for sure. Expounding on stuff he knows 'zero' about and pretending to be an 'expert', while the anti-war left falls all over him because they don't know the right questions to ask, either (to see if he's real).
It's obvious from that remark that he has about as much knowledge on 'artillery' as he does on fornication. He's read about it in books, finds it distasteful, and wants to deprive those who've used it of it's fine function because it's 'icky' and causes bodily fluids to be splashed about when done correctly.
"Precise" airstrikes are, like everything else, subject to whims and weather. Obviously he's never had to 'lase' a target for real, unless you count his X-box games he plays with cheeto stained fingers.
Nice one on the cheeto stained fingers Sgt. Lep.
Sgt Leprechaun
07-04-11, 05:39 PM
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kenrobg30
07-05-11, 10:46 AM
I make it a point to read Sgt. LEPS posts because he gets almost everything right. Watching from your fox-hole, while your air cover is doing their job is awesome. Hearing those big guns behind you shoot, and watching those rounds land on an enemy you can see, helps loosen the stomach muscles. What made us smile, was hearing those rounds from the Missoury, going overhead, Or hearing the 4x4s pull up behind your position, and fire their racks of rockets.As for posers and scumbags, If you don't like 'em, I agree with what ever you call them. S/F!! Ken
Chad Leddy
07-05-11, 03:22 PM
The guy, Adam, just seems like a total douche.
Sgt Leprechaun
07-05-11, 05:06 PM
Thanks, Ken. You give me waaaaaay too much credit my friend! :)
And yeah, Kokeessssh is a massive, full, leftover hooorbag douche.
Air hit a single builing in Nam, not likely , BUT Napalm works wonders
We could really use some napalm to burn down some treelines (aka "insurgent highways") here.... alas, its not really allowed, and fuel air bombs don't really have the sustained burn rate as napalm.