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scott99
03-22-11, 04:36 PM
I would like to enlist active duty as either a 0317 or 0321 or 0323, so my goal Is to volunteer for Marsoc as a "critical skill operator" for about 4-7 years. After USMC Id like to either apply for FBI as a special agent/HRT or CIA National Clandestine Service In Special Activities Division. In order for me to join FBI or CIA I need a bachelors degree so, how would I go about getting a bachelors while active duty in Marsoc or a scout/sniper?

USNAviator
03-22-11, 04:59 PM
I would like to enlist active duty as either a 0317 or 0321 or 0323, so my goal Is to volunteer for Marsoc as a "critical skill operator" for about 4-7 years. After USMC Id like to either apply for FBI as a special agent/HRT or CIA National Clandestine Service In Special Activities Division. In order for me to join FBI or CIA I need a bachelors degree so, how would I go about getting a bachelors while active duty in Marsoc or a scout/sniper?

It's not going to be easy but it can be done while your active duty. However it will take a long time because you'll be doing it part time. Most colleges require a course load of either 4 or 5 classes/semester depending on credit given on a full time basis

Buy going part time you'll only be taking 2-3 courses, most likely no more than 2. If you do summer school as well the most courses you can take in any given year is 6-8. That's in a 12 month period.

I teach at a university that requires 32, 4 credit courses for a degree Most students do that in 4 years, full time. Part time it would take 8 years. Every college or university is different. Check out schools on line to get start, to see how you'll do

Good luck to you

Devil1087
03-22-11, 05:51 PM
I would like to enlist active duty as either a 0317 or 0321 or 0323, so my goal Is to volunteer for Marsoc as a "critical skill operator" for about 4-7 years. After USMC Id like to either apply for FBI as a special agent/HRT or CIA National Clandestine Service In Special Activities Division. In order for me to join FBI or CIA I need a bachelors degree so, how would I go about getting a bachelors while active duty in Marsoc or a scout/sniper?

I'm sure plenty of people would like to enlist active duty as an 0317...

As of now 0317 isn't even a PMOS broski, you have to try out for a spot in an STA platoon and await a SSS slot. Good luck not getting DQ'd at MEPS and then discuss your enlistment. You're better off looking at the intel field if you want to work at a three letter agency. You enlist with a contract program which includes several MOS', you cannot just enlist as an 0321 or something like that.

devilbones2
03-22-11, 06:02 PM
You have a bunch of 'ifs' in your question. As of right now 0317 is not a Primary MOS so you would need to be an 03 first. In order to be an 03 you will either need to enlist under an 03 contract or a recon contract. If you pass Recruit Training and then complete ITB, and then complete BRC you MIGHT be able to try out for MARSOC. If you are able to make it into Recon or MARSOC you will be going through so many schools and training opportunities you will have no time for college. If you are really smart you may be able to CLEP a few exams. Once you have done a deployment or two you MAY be able to swing some sort of instructor duty which will also entail many hours working but if you are academically talented you may be able to attend school online somehow. So maybe your second enlistment you MIGHT be able to work some sort of duty that will be 9-5, but doubtful. Keep in mind that all of these things you want to do require lots of skill, training and education. If you really want to do all of these things you need to focus on your short term goals and develop your long term goals. Try to focus on Recruit training and doing better than what is expected of you. There arent many folks in the jobs for a reason and the non-hackers will not make it. If you keep doing better than whats expected, you should have a chance.
What is better than expected? Dont be the first one to sit down after a long hump or some exhausting PT. Be sure to look out for the welfare of the guys around you. Its one thing to finish something, its a completely different person to do it well. Remember you want to be the best at what you do, not just be doing it.

iamspartacus
03-22-11, 06:14 PM
Getting a degree on active duty in 4 years is obtainable (a buddy of mine got his bachelors and started on his masters before 5 years was up. Of course he worked his keester off), it’s just a matter...

TheReservist
03-22-11, 08:44 PM
Why don't you just worry about getting into the elite of Marsoc before anything else?

Champions don't go on the field thinking about where they are going on vacation.

scott99
03-22-11, 08:48 PM
Ok would I be able to enlist in reserves with a 03xx mos(1st Battalion, 24th Marine Regiment..Michigan, or 4th Recon Battalion, 3rd or 4th Force Recon Company) when Im 18, after all required training etc. would I be able to get tuition assistance for one of two community college's that offer bachelor's degree's: Macomb Community/Oakland Community? If so would I be able to do 2 years out of 4 then transfer from reserves to active duty then volunteer for marsoc, by then ill be 20 or 21 years old, serve active for about 5-7 years then either return to reserve or leave the USMC and finish the 2 years or during my time in active finish the 2 years with there online courses?

26XXer
03-23-11, 10:07 AM
Reserve education benefits are totally different, I suggest you talk with your recruiter about it (as a current recruiter myself, it's much easier to discuss this kind of stuff face to face with my pool). As far as your plans after the Marines, as an Intel Marine who has worked in very close relationships with some of those groups you mentioned... I really really suggest that you either consider an Intel MOS or plan on doing at least 8-10 years active duty.... those places don't hire people fresh out of the military with only 3-4 years of actual experience, especially if you only have 1 or 2 deployments under your belt... just some friendly words of advice.

crazymjb
03-23-11, 10:20 AM
Not sure about reserve recon, but our Sniper platoon basically just holds an indoc every year or two and draws from the other companies in the battalion. If you are smart and in good shape you have a chance, but they judge you on land nav, decision making, shooting of course, and others, and even if you "pass" can and do reject people. Then when slots become available they will send you to school, usually it ends up being a re-enlistment incentive. All other training is OJT.

Mike

iamspartacus
03-23-11, 11:04 AM
Pretty sure you don't get tuition assistance when you are a reservist. I don't even think you get the full GI Bill that active duty Marines get. Besides, that's a pretty complicated plan you described. Could it work out that way? Maybe. But the Marine Corps rarely works out like you planned it on paper. Just realize there is no formula to get a job with the CIA or FBI. Sure, there are qualities and skills they look for, but don't just assume that because you were ricky recon that they are going to hire you on the spot. There are plenty of paths people have taken to get hired in those government positions. Just be open to all your options.

USNAviator
03-23-11, 11:25 AM
I know this doesn't affect you now but things like this happen from time to time. Sometimes the jobs you want simply aren't there. From the FBI website

At this time, federal agencies are operating under a Continuing Resolution with limited funding. As a result, the Department of Justice has ordered a temporary freeze on agency hiring.

Until the budgetary restrictions are lifted and the FBI has funding to support hiring additional personnel, applications will not be accepted for any positions. Please return to this website for updates to our hiring opportunities. Thank you for your continued interest in FBI employment

And if you're going to apply consider majoring in one of these critical skill areas. Not everyone gets hired as a field agent. Pay attention to the phrase "one or more" Show up with as many skills as you can

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