View Full Version : Yankee White security clearance?
DudefromDiego
03-17-11, 09:38 PM
Hello Marines, I was just curious, is there any MOS in the Marine Corps that requires a YANKEE WHITE security clearance? For those who don't know, Yankee White is the highest security clearance that can be obtained. Most of the bodyguards in the U.S Secret Service as well as other departments in Langley and Washington have them. My MOS (Logistics) apparently requires a Secret Clearance (polygraph maybe?) and know that there is a top secret clearance, but was curious if any MOS required a Yankee White clearance. Thanks.
Wyoming
03-17-11, 09:45 PM
HMX-1 for one, or anything that comes in contact with the POTUS!
Lisa 23
03-17-11, 09:51 PM
What is Yankee White Clearance?
Yankee White is a security clearance given in the United States for personnel working with the President. Obtaining such clearance requires, in part, a Single Scope Background Investigation (SSBI) by the Department of Defense. Contrary to popular lore, the Yankee White clearance given to personnel who work directly with the President is not a classification, but rather a type of background check.
DudefromDiego
03-17-11, 09:57 PM
Thanks to both! I can assume the HMX-1 is equivalent to Yankee White, because one of our recruiters mentioned that Marine honor guards are required to have em before they can even touch Marine One. Or something along those lines... all these clearances are making my head spin...
Lisa 23
03-17-11, 10:00 PM
DudefromDiego....just curious, when do you go to boot camp?
DudefromDiego
03-17-11, 10:20 PM
20110108. Originally had a 20112706 ship date but a change in my MOS pushed my shipdate about a month back. Am I in trouble?
Tennessee Top
03-18-11, 12:24 AM
When I was the Security Chief with the Special Security Office, USCENTCOM J2, I had a GAMMA clearance (my ID badge was green and had a big G on it). Basically, with a GAMMA clearance, you can handle satellite images (I did not have a "need to know" so I did not actually look at any of the documents inside the cover sheet whenever I hand-carried them to the CINC).
haebyungdae
03-18-11, 03:11 AM
Yankee White is an administrative nickname that gets stamped on DD Form 1879 when you request clearance to work with or around the president or vice president because there is no specific item to check to note that you are obtaining a clearance to work around those people (per DODI 5210.87, Nov. 30, 1998). Though you will obtain a clearance upon approval, it is an administrative marking and that is it. Failure to obtain a security clearance means you can't work around the president/vice president. You basically have to fulfill the same requirements needed to obtain a clearance equivalent to the level of information that you may come in contact with while carrying out your duties. The highest classification is top secret, if anyone says otherwise then they either are blowing smoke up your butt or they don't know/understand the systems for classification. Lastly, I don't think any details, even if unclassified, regarding subsystems should really be discussed here on Leatherneck; if someone doesn't know already, then they probably don't really need to know.
Lisa 23
03-18-11, 07:48 AM
20110108. Originally had a 20112706 ship date but a change in my MOS pushed my shipdate about a month back. Am I in trouble?
No, you're not in trouble.
And I think this is one of those topics that should be deleted.
What is Yankee White Clearance?
Yankee White is a security clearance given in the United States for personnel working with the President. Obtaining such clearance requires, in part, a Single Scope Background Investigation (SSBI) by the Department of Defense. Contrary to popular lore, the Yankee White clearance given to personnel who work directly with the President is not a classification, but rather a type of background check.
The old dog can still learn something new every day.;)
No, you're not in trouble.
And I think this is one of those topics that should be deleted.
I see no reason to delete it. You can google Yankee White and get more information than has been given here.
TinDragon
03-18-11, 09:58 AM
(TS)/SCI is the highest clearance level and the one you'll have if you have a Yankee White background check. The folks on the HMX-1 have this type of background check, so security guys and comm guys mainly.
You won't need a poly for logistics. A lot of us with TS don't even have polys done.
Old Marine
03-18-11, 10:18 AM
If you think your head is spinning now, wait until you get to Recruit Training. You will think you head is a plane prop.
Tennessee Top
03-18-11, 11:45 AM
(TS)/SCI is the highest clearance level and the one you'll have if you have a Yankee White background check. The folks on the HMX-1 have this type of background check, so security guys and comm guys mainly.
You won't need a poly for logistics. A lot of us with TS don't even have polys done.
Yes, I remember now. TS/SCI was my clearance level not GAMMA. I guess the GAMMA was just a designation for SIGINT material. Apologize for not remembering correctly and thanks for squaring me away (it's been a few years).
Wyoming
03-18-11, 12:18 PM
I see no reason to delete it. You can google Yankee White and get more information than has been given here.
Exactly what I did, but the poolee does not realize that google is his friend.
Lisa, why? Why delete the thead??
Lisa 23
03-18-11, 12:26 PM
Exactly what I did, but the poolee does not realize that google is his friend.
Lisa, why? Why delete the thead??
Forget what I said about deleting the thread. I got busy with something else and wanted to edit my post, but the 5 minute rule ran out.
Tennessee Top
03-18-11, 03:44 PM
Hate that 5 minute rule...my brain housing group does not work that fast anymore.
Wish the powers that be would extend that out longer (I need at least an hour!).
USNAviator
03-18-11, 04:45 PM
Friend of mine works in the nuke industry. He has a Q clearance which requires a Single Scope check. He's in and out of nuke plants all the time and before they "badge" him he had to under go the back ground check. He told me before 9/11 all they did was call his previous employer now the check goes back 10 years
USNAviator
03-18-11, 04:47 PM
Forget what I said about deleting the thread. I got busy with something else and wanted to edit my post, but the 5 minute rule ran out.
Lisa I've talked with some others and I think that 5 minutes has been shortened down to one minute. Kind of tough if you type like I do. :)
Wyoming
03-18-11, 05:35 PM
Lisa I've talked with some others and I think that 5 minutes has been shortened down to one minute. Kind of tough if you type like I do. :)
Do a Preview Post before you Submit Reply.
devilbones2
03-18-11, 05:39 PM
When I was the Security Chief with the Special Security Office, USCENTCOM J2, I had a GAMMA clearance (my ID badge was green and had a big G on it). Basically, with a GAMMA clearance, you can handle satellite images (I did not have a "need to know" so I did not actually look at any of the documents inside the cover sheet whenever I hand-carried them to the CINC).
I am pretty sure this is on the NDA that you need to sign. Probably should edit anything with codewords.
DudefromDiego
03-18-11, 07:02 PM
Well, thanks for all your answers. I could have googled it, but wanted to hear from some Marines first hand as to the hierachy of security clearances, Yankee White, etc. In hindsight it was a good idea. I've pretty much got the general idea down so thanks once again. Can one of the mods close this thread? Most of it was helpful right off the bat, no reason to keep it alive.
haebyungdae
03-19-11, 01:23 AM
I am pretty sure this is on the NDA that you need to sign. Probably should edit anything with codewords.
From what I have seen on this thread there hasn't been any type of spillage. The various types of clearance levels and its subsystems, such as GAMMA, and whatnot are all unclassed. Just I think in the future those of us that have or have had accesses should probably abstain from talking even generally about it, just in case.
Sgt Leprechaun
03-23-11, 07:51 PM
No violations that I can see here. Most of this stuff is out in the open nowadays anyway.
Working in Intelligence, I had TS/SCI with a crap ton of other 'special' letters and words after it LOL. Heck, there were some programs that I got "read into" where the first letter of the codeword was 'secret', and the rest of the word was TS. LOL. I about crapped when I heard that word in the public on a TV show (!!!) some years back. Now it's common knowledge. I guess technically I still can't say it since I signed the SF 50.
Haeby, that is good advice. When I was 'in the know' at my level, I never commented on news, since I couldn't remember half the time what I had read. Tried to 'forget' stuff I didn't need, which is why I can't remember crap nowadays LOL. Or maybe I'm just getting old.
Naaaaahhhhhh......
Now, where did I put my keys.....?
VictoryttBold
03-23-11, 08:42 PM
:flag:They're probably in the ignition, with the doors locked.
Sgt Leprechaun
03-23-11, 08:43 PM
Hmmmm......
Maybe it's 'classified'.
Tango One
01-30-12, 07:47 AM
Yankee White is an administrative nickname that gets stamped on DD Form 1879 when you request clearance to work with or around the president or vice president because there is no specific item to check to note that you are obtaining a clearance to work around those people (per DODI 5210.87, Nov. 30, 1998). Though you will obtain a clearance upon approval, it is an administrative marking and that is it. Failure to obtain a security clearance means you can't work around the president/vice president. You basically have to fulfill the same requirements needed to obtain a clearance equivalent to the level of information that you may come in contact with while carrying out your duties. The highest classification is top secret, if anyone says otherwise then they either are blowing smoke up your butt or they don't know/understand the systems for classification. Lastly, I don't think any details, even if unclassified, regarding subsystems should really be discussed here on Leatherneck; if someone doesn't know already, then they probably don't really need to know.
This is sort of correct. There is a sub-division with in "Top Secret" called "Compartmentalization" and further down to "Code Word"' A "Yankee White" Marine would have one of 4 "Yankee White" levels. "Yankee White One" is a "Top Secret with compartmental privileges with code word access" to all information that the President can access. That is the top type of clearance you can get.
Tango One
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