Questions about an Accounting and Supply contract...

[ALF 87]

I leave for Boot Camp in 5 weeks to the day and it seems that I will not beable to get into the Infantry feild or Security Forces like I had hoped. Since I have an associates in Business Administration my recruiter has me under an accounting and supply contract. I would like to know if anyone on here currently has that contract too, and I think that the school is in Camp Lejeune but I do not know how long the MOS school is for.... Can anyone help me out and answer it for me?

[josephd]

if you end up supply it is only something like 3 weeks, accounting though I don't know

[ALF 87]

Thanks, also I read something on here about when your unit goes to the field, I also would go to the field... does that mean what I think that means?

[Lisa 23]

I was in supply - 3043, and I went to Camp Johnson for my MOS schooling. Of course....that was back in 1988. I was at school for a month before I went overseas to my first duty station in Okinawa...... Camp Kinser.


MOS Schools, Locations, & Days (PDF file)
http://www.marineparents.com/usmc/downloads/mos-school-locations.pdf

[Devil1087]

Don't be a POG dude, tell your recruiter infantry or you'll see the Army recruiter, they can guarantee you an 11b slot. If you really want to fight that is. Or you can roll over and take it in the ass because the green digital weenie is already f*cking you hard.

inb4 hurr but he won't be a Marine. Brotherhood is not limited to the Marine Corps, you'll find it in any infantry unit on the planet. If the title is more important to you than the job I'd recommend re-evaluating your enlistment. If you enlisted to fight, do not sit in the rear with the gear, you'll become disgruntled and overall it will hurt the Corps. You'll be ****ed off and tell your children not to join because you got fvcked over. They'll tell their friends and so on and so forth.

[ALF 87]

My recruiter actually just called me with a list of options for me. I am really happy about it, I have been asking for other options and finally he is starting to come through. Here they are in order I am considering them.

Parachute Rigger, Logistics, Intelligence, Nuclear Biological Chemical Defense and Cryptologist linguist.

Does anyone on here have any extra insite on these MOS'?
Ive done some reading already and my Roommate who is a Marine said that if I went in as a Rigger then I stand a good shot at getting attached to a Recon Unit and will have to jump. Any truth to that? Thank you Marines.

[Devil1087]

What contract is rigger in? It may be one of many options under a logistics contract. Do you understand the program codes listed in MCO 1130.53? If not, read it.

[ALF 87]

What contract is rigger in? It may be one of many options under a logistics contract. Do you understand the program codes listed in MCO 1130.53? If not, read it.

I don't know what you mean by that sir, I googled the MCO 1130.53 and got something about enlistment incentives? I believe it would fall under Airborne and Air Delivery Specialist, 0451? My recruiter called me about an hour and a half ago and told me to pick three MOS' in order of preference. I will do my homework on it more when I get out of work tomorrow but I was hoping for some first person insite on it because thats why I posted it in the "Ask a Marine" section.

[Marine3451]

I took the Supply and Accounting option a few years ago and ended up a 3451 Financal Management resource Analyst. I like the field but its not for everyone. If people want to be Nasty and call you "POG" just let their request for TAD or whatever they need money for sit on your desk forever. There are alot of oppertunities to make alot of money with defense contractor once you get out and there is also a pretty solid oppertunity to make Warrant officer after 8 years if you technicly profficent. I have also traveled out of country 3 times in a 2 year time period when i was in hawaii.But if you dont want to sit at a desk and deal with numbers and funding documents then get them to give you a different contract.

[Devil1087]

I don't know what you mean by that sir, I googled the MCO 1130.53 and got something about enlistment incentives? I believe it would fall under Airborne and Air Delivery Specialist, 0451? My recruiter called me about an hour and a half ago and told me to pick three MOS' in order of preference. I will do my homework on it more when I get out of work tomorrow but I was hoping for some first person insite on it because thats why I posted it in the "Ask a Marine" section.

Well it includes the bonuses you can get for certain contracts. But the doc basically has every contract for MOS' on that thing. The program codes are two letters like UH for infantry, DB for command and control/electrician, I think CE is combat support. Contracts aren't written for specific fields like 01XX, 02xx etc, they're grouped together in those programs. So for example in the 06xx field, the data jobs like 0651 have their own contract, while the command and control contract which also has 06XX MOS' will not include data, but it will include the electrician job from the 11xx occ field.

CE again I think is Combat Support, it has artillery, tanks, and some other MOS' in there. Obviously those are all different OccFields as well, but all grouped into the same contract. You'll understand what I'm talking about if you read through it. Don't worry about the first couple of pages.

[ammermda]

I usually stay out the enlisted threads, but I hate to see my field maligned... so let me give you my "O" perspective on the enlisted finance field:

Financial controls separate duties into budget authority and execution; with officers mainly working budget issues, and enlisted spending the money. What that means for enlisted 3451s is (probably) a higher level of autonomy than other MOSes. I expect my Marines to exercise a high level of initiative, all the way down to the PFC -- I need them spending the money in accordance with laws and regulations while I try to figure out how to get more.

Simply put, I need you sending money to other military departments so Marines can train and eat; I need you monitoring fiscal sections at Battalion's so Marines have adequate gear; I need you processing travel orders so Marines are properly paid and trained; I need you processing contract requests so Marines are getting logistic and supply support; I need you processing transportation requests so Marines can train and get to the fight.

Everything requires money, and finance Marines make it happen. Why not join Army infantry? Becuase you're still not a Marine.

But, if you're not highly disciplined and enthusiastic about this field, please, by all means, go somewhere else.

[Marine3451]

I usually stay out the enlisted threads, but I hate to see my field maligned... so let me give you my "O" perspective on the enlisted finance field:

Financial controls separate duties into budget authority and execution; with officers mainly working budget issues, and enlisted spending the money. What that means for enlisted 3451s is (probably) a higher level of autonomy than other MOSes. I expect my Marines to exercise a high level of initiative, all the way down to the PFC -- I need them spending the money in accordance with laws and regulations while I try to figure out how to get more.

Simply put, I need you sending money to other military departments so Marines can train and eat; I need you monitoring fiscal sections at Battalion's so Marines have adequate gear; I need you processing travel orders so Marines are properly paid and trained; I need you processing contract requests so Marines are getting logistic and supply support; I need you processing transportation requests so Marines can train and get to the fight.

Everything requires money, and finance Marines make it happen. Why not join Army infantry? Becuase you're still not a Marine.

But, if you're not highly disciplined and enthusiastic about this field, please, by all means, go somewhere else.

Very well said Sir, I personally enjoy being a 3451 but I have came across Marines that don't want to be in this field and it shows in their work. Being a fiscal Marine opens alot of doors thats not available to grunts because of the technical nature of our field.

[ammermda]

Very well said Sir, I personally enjoy being a 3451 but I have came across Marines that don't want to be in this field and it shows in their work. Being a fiscal Marine opens alot of doors thats not available to grunts because of the technical nature of our field.

I love this field. In an age where government is cutting spending, many higher-ups in DoD and Congress will begin to question the return on investment of having a Marine Corps at all. It's the finance Marines that will end up fighting that battle to maintain and secure funding to ensure the nation has expeditionary and amphibious warefare (in addition to other) capabilities.

I wish more people would (really) read Sun Zu and realize that warefare is not fought soley on the battlefield, but also in the political and economic 'areas of operation.'

Besides all that, I'd still rather be a Marine POG than anything non-Marine. The Marine warrior ethos is applicable to all fields, including financial management.

SF

[ALF 87]

I love this field. In an age where government is cutting spending, many higher-ups in DoD and Congress will begin to question the return on investment of having a Marine Corps at all. It's the finance Marines that will end up fighting that battle to maintain and secure funding to ensure the nation has expeditionary and amphibious warefare (in addition to other) capabilities.

I wish more people would (really) read Sun Zu and realize that warefare is not fought soley on the battlefield, but also in the political and economic 'areas of operation.'

Besides all that, I'd still rather be a Marine POG than anything non-Marine. The Marine warrior ethos is applicable to all fields, including financial management.

SF

Hello Sir, and thank you for providing me with some well needed input from your first hand experience. Thats exactly what I was looking for. I also agree with your statement "I'd rather be a Marine POG than anything non-Marine." However, everyone has their favorite fields (or what poolees THINK will be their favorite fields, until they find out what its like) but whatever field I get thrown into, I will do the best that I can at it. Thanks for taking the time, sir.

[ammermda]

Hello Sir, and thank you for providing me with some well needed input from your first hand experience. Thats exactly what I was looking for. I also agree with your statement "I'd rather be a Marine POG than anything non-Marine." However, everyone has their favorite fields (or what poolees THINK will be their favorite fields, until they find out what its like) but whatever field I get thrown into, I will do the best that I can at it. Thanks for taking the time, sir.

No problem; here to help where I can. We all want to get in the fight; some of us just have a different fight in a different 'area of operations.' You won't know what you really like/dislike until you get into it. So the best advice: take your time, reflect on your likes/dislikes, strengths/weaknesses, make the best decision you can, don't look back, and bloom where you're planted.

[ALF 87]

No problem; here to help where I can. We all want to get in the fight; some of us just have a different fight in a different 'area of operations.' You won't know what you really like/dislike until you get into it. So the best advice: take your time, reflect on your likes/dislikes, strengths/weaknesses, make the best decision you can, don't look back, and bloom where you're planted.

Great advice Sir, I will definitly not forget it. I haven't heard back from my recruiter though as far as if I did get a different MOS yet or not so until then I am looking at that Accounting and Supply school and trying to figure out where that is and how long its for. Everyone keeps asking me where I'm going to be and I can tell them up until I get to the part were I leave MCT but then, obviously I don't know. So if anyone has recently been through the schooling (or has first hand knowledge of it) please chime in. Thanks.

[josephd]

Also don't the thought of being in an MOS like supply and others make you think you won't get deployed or outside the wire. A friend of mine I went to boot camp with is a supply guy, he just got back from Afghanistan. He spent alot his deployment on mounted patrols taking fire, he has a combat action ribbon. and a NAM with a combat V.

While this may be a rare occasion for the MOS,just realize it can happen.

[ammermda]

So if anyone has recently been through the schooling (or has first hand knowledge of it) please chime in. Thanks.

Both schools are part of Marine Corps Combat Service Support Schools, located at Camp Johnson, NC (co-located with Camp LeJeune). I think the basic finance course is approx. 4-7 weeks. (Please don't judge the whole 34XX community by lack of info on the school webpage...)

http://www.lejeune.usmc.mil/mccsss/index.shtml

[HookNLadder]

My recruiter actually just called me with a list of options for me. I am really happy about it, I have been asking for other options and finally he is starting to come through. Here they are in order I am considering them.

Parachute Rigger, Logistics, Intelligence, Nuclear Biological Chemical Defense and Cryptologist linguist.

Does anyone on here have any extra insite on these MOS'?
Ive done some reading already and my Roommate who is a Marine said that if I went in as a Rigger then I stand a good shot at getting attached to a Recon Unit and will have to jump. Any truth to that? Thank you Marines.

Parachute Rigger: you fold things
Logistics: you make sure people have the things they need
Intelligence: you make power points
Nuclear Biological Chemical Defense: you fix gas masks
Cryptologist linguist: um... somthing with gear that if you lose you go to jaill for a long time.